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Working with Walt: Interviews With Disney Artists

Working with Walt: Interviews With Disney Artists by Don Peri (2008, 246 pages).

This is a quick and thoroughly enjoyable collection of interviews with 15 different artists that worked with Walt Disney at the Studios.

Mr. Peri states in the Acknowledgements that he was prompted by Didier Ghez (editor of the Walt's People series) to finally collect the interviews and publish them. Thanks both to Don and Didier!

Most of the interviews were conducted in the late 1970's with artists that spent most of their career working at the Disney Studios. What surprised me at first was how the artists were all enchanted with Walt Disney; after reading a multitude of Disney biographies, you do get the sense that Walt was a benevolent dictator--but a dictator nonetheless. A majority of the artists interviewed stuck with Walt during the Animator's Strike of 1941. If you study any work on Disney and animation, the Animator's Strike is often seen as a watershed in the history of the Studio, prompting the mentality that Walt lost a lot of faith in his employees. With the interviews presented by Peri, you get a sense that Walt did favor the artists that stuck by him.

I finished Walt's People Volume 1 (Ed. by Ghez) shortly after this title. There are some similarities in the scope of the two books, but they are both valuable resources on their own. The interviews presented by Peri were done at a time when there was not a lot being written about the artists that worked directly with Walt Disney. After reading the interviews, you come away with a sense of what it was like to work with Walt Disney and to work at the Studios. I feel like I have a better understanding of how Walt worked during the early years of the Studios.

The artists included animators, designers and voice actors:
  • Ken Anderson
  • Les Clark
  • Larry Clemmons
  • Jack Cutting
  • Don Duckwall
  • Marcellite Garner
  • Harper Goff
  • Floyd Gottfredson
  • Dick Huemer
  • Wilfred Jackson
  • Eric Larson
  • Clarence Nash
  • Ken O'Connor
  • Herb Ryman
  • Ben Sharpsteen

The stories and anecdotes that each artist shares are humorous, wistful and passionate. These artists truly loved their jobs and working with Walt Disney.

...he didn't think of himself as Walt Disney. He thought of Walt Disney as an entity, an organization, and he spoke of Walt Disney as an organization, for which everybody worked and not the personal part of the name. A lot of people put Walt down because they didn't get along with him or they got canned or they were chewed out by him, and naturally they probably make more or less severe remarks about him and understandably so. He had a great ego, and because of this ego he could overcome a lot of difficulties and obstacles because he believed in himself. He believed what other people didn't believe, and he was proven right time after time after time, even with the bankers. Snow White was called "Disney's Folly," because what--an animated cartoon to run for over an hour? It's Impossible! Nobody will sit through a cartoon that long. Well that was Snow White and the Seven Dwarves.

--Les Clark (p. 123, Working With Walt)

Bottom Line: This is a wonderful resource to have at hand. It is not for everyone--you really need to have an interest in animation, the studios or what working with Walt Disney was like in order to fully realize the necessity of a title like this. I give it a high Geek Factor rating because of its focus, even though the book is extremely accessible and easy to read. But if you are interested in learning a lot about the artists, the studio and Walt Disney, this is a great place to start or to add to your collection. This book will foster a greater appreciation for the animated films and shorts. It is also one of the few places you can read the actual words of the artists that never received a lot of acclaim outside the arena of animation fans.


Walt's People Volume 1

Walt's People Volume 1: Talking Disney With The Artists Who Knew Him by Didier Ghez. (2005, 272 pages.)

Didier Ghez runs two very important sites in the Disney online community: Disney History and the Ultimate Disney Books Network. Didier has been researching Disney animation since his teens and co-authored Disneyland Paris: From Sketch to Realitywith Alain Littaye.

The Walt's People seriesis five volumes with a sixth one on the way (as of this preview). Didier is the editor of the series and has put together some amazing interviews with Disney artists. In some cases, the interviewer is as well-known as the interviewee!

The compilation of interviews that Didier has collected makes this volume so very important to anyone researching Disney. The interviews are not just with animators, but artists that worked with Walt on Disneyland and went on to work on the Walt Disney World project. The stories, recollections and anecdotes are priceless and proffer a view of Walt that you can only get from talking to the people that worked directly with him.

The interviewees include:
  • Rudolf Ising
  • David Hand
  • Bill Tytla
  • Ken Anderson
  • Jack Hannah
  • John Hench (two interviews)
  • Marc Davis (two interviews)
  • Milt Kahl
  • Harper Goff
  • Joyce Carlson

The interviewers are equally impressive: J.B. Kaufman, Michael Barrier, George Sherman, Paul F. Andersen, Jim Korkis, Alain Littay, Didier Ghez, John Province, Michael Lyons and Robin Allan.

In the forward, Didier puts forth some important thoughts about the interviews.

...it is important to always keep in mind that no statement from any interview should ever be considered as the absolute truth, as the interviewee might have misremembered the facts, may have seen only part of the project described, or may have his own personal reasons for representing reality in a certain way. Hence the further importance of the various perspectives provided throughout this series.

Didier's work is going to play an important role in the future of research into the Disney Company. Many of the artists were involved in classic Disney animation at a time when credit wasn't clearly given or assigned. It is a chance for the artists to speak for themselves and offer an insight into the Disney Company that we will not likely find elsewhere. You might pass up a book like this if you are a theme park junkie, but reading the stories from artists like Hench, Davis, Carlson and Anderson--that worked on Disneyland and Walt Disney World projects--are wonderful.


Bottom Line: It is hard to place a work like Walt's People in the overall Disney literature--it doesn't focus solely on animation or the theme parks. The interviews collected are amazing and offer insight into Disney, the Studios and the theme parks. The volumes are not for everyone, but the Disney historian, enthusiast and geek will take a lot away from Dider's work. It is a great place to get your Geek on and delve into what it was like to know and work with Walt Disney, Roy Disney and the talented people in the organization.

I can't wait to start the next volume in the series!




Book Review: Walt's People, vol. 2 by Didier Ghez

Walt's People - Volume 2: Talking Disney with the Artists who Knew Him, edited by Didier Ghez. 375 p., 2006.

Didier Ghez is an author, blogger and prolific Disney researcher. Didier runs the Disney History blog and Disney Books Network site. He is known for his exhaustive interviews that have been featured in various magazines. In addition to editing the Walt's People series, he is the co-author of the amazing book Disneyland Paris - From Sketch to Reality.

I reviewed Volume 1 here.

I wholeheartedly recommend this book. The sheer volume and scope of the interviews will provide fodder for Disney enthusiasts for many years to come. It is easy to look at a book of interviews and pass on it, but this is a title worth owning. You may not read it cover-to-cover (although, I did) but you will find yourself looking for interviews with specific artists--for the observations and anecdotes.

Contributing interviewer (and animation expert) Michael Barrier discusses the importance and the reliability of interviews:

[...] memories tend to be strong and reliable according to how useful they will be to us in the future. And what memories could be more useful to someone working at a studio like Walt Disney's than strong, clear memories of the boss?

Time and again, in interviewing people who worked for Walt Disney, I've been struck by how intently they observed him. They stored up memories, not so that they could tell their grandchildren what is was like to work for a genius, but so they could avoid having that genius slap them down the next time they showed him a storyboard or some rough animation. What they remember about their co-workers might be vague or demonstrably inaccurate, but their memories of Walt have a sharp, clear edge.
--p. 11.

The collected interviews are insightful and fun to read. You will find yourself checking Didier's online index to find specific interviews or subjects.

The interviewers and interviewees:

  • JB Kaufman: Friz Freleng
  • John Province : Grim Natwick
  • Mike Barrier : Frank Tashlin
  • Jim Korkis : Ward Kimball
  • Mike Barrier : Ward Kimball
  • Arn Saba : Floyd Gottfredson
  • Robin Allan : Herb Ryman
  • Christian Renaut : Frank Thomas
  • Wes Sullivan : Dale Oliver
  • Robin Allan : Eric Larson
  • Thorkil Rasmussen : Eric Larson
  • Thorkil Rasmussen : Woolie Reitherman
  • Christian Renaut : Richard Rich
  • Didier Ghez : Richard Rich
  • Mike Lyons : Glen Keane
  • Didier Ghez : Glen Keane

The list of artists interviewed is very impressive. The interviews were conducted in the 70s, 80s and 90s with artists from animation and the comics. The list of the interviewees reads like a Who's Who of animation and Disney research; true professionals and artists, in their own right.

Jim Korkis interviewed Ward Kimball in 1996. Korkis asked Kimball about Grizzly Flats and its influence on Walt:

He was planning Disneyland, some sort of attraction for people coming to Hollywood and who never had a chance to see things that would interest them. We had been going around to some of these amusement parks, and he was thinking of these small gauges you've seen. Running that locomotive in my backyard changed his mind. When he got to building Disneyland, the equipment would look full size. He sat in the cab and the whole works changed everything.
--p. 100.
There are little gems scattered throughout the book that offer insight into Walt and the studio. You can imagine what it was like to work on animated films and with the legendary Disney animators throughout every decade of the studio's history.

One caveat: the books are published through Xlibris with a very limited print run. Didier has mentioned that to make the earlier volumes available after they are sold out is cost prohibitive. In other words...get your copies as soon as you can!

Bottom Line: The Walt's People series is an incredibly valuable resource for Disney enthusiasts. The interviewers know their history and the questions asked are relevant and thoughtful. The book will be a welcome addition to your reference shelf and you will find yourself reaching for it for many years to come.